PayPal’s Embedded Finance Vision: Michelle Gill reveals how cash flow lending is reshaping SMB access to capital

As General Manager of PayPal’s Small Business and Financial Services Group, Michelle Gill is responsible for bringing together the products and services that help small business owners run and grow their business. She is my guest for this episode of the Tearsheet Podcast.

Michelle brings deep financial expertise and experience building platforms and tools that help customers manage their finances to her role on PayPal’s Senior Leadership Team. Michelle was previously Senior Vice President of Intuit’s business money management, payment, and banking service, QuickBooks Money Platform. Prior to Intuit, Michelle successfully integrated and expanded SoFi’s lending business as General Manager and Executive Vice President of Consumer Lending and Capital Markets.

Drawing on her early career experience as a Managing Director and Partner at Goldman Sachs, Michelle also served as SoFi’s Chief Financial Officer before moving into the product leadership role. Before that, Michelle spent a decade leading the U.S. Assets business for global investment firm Sixth Street Partners.

Given her career and experiences, Michelle brings a broad view of fintech innovation. She focuses on user-centered solutions. At PayPal, she leads efforts to help entrepreneurs navigate the complicated web of financial tools they often depend on.

“The preponderance of [small businesses] use greater than 15 tools to run their business,” she shares. “What they got into business for is the passion… and yet they end up spending more time on things that are not what they love.”

Our conversation explores how PayPal is actively trying to reduce that complexity. It does so not by offering more tools, but by making the ones they already use work better together. Gill outlines the strategy behind PayPal’s cash flow-based lending model and how it fits within their open ecosystem, whether it’s digital lending, embedded finance, or leveraging open banking.

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How PayPal for Small Business solutions addresses complexity

For many small business owners, managing finances often means juggling over a dozen platforms. PayPal is stepping into this chaos with the goal of integration.  “It’s not the adoption of the new tool in and of itself that’s the problem. It’s how it feeds back into your broader ecosystem,” says Gill. PayPal’s strategy focuses on streamlining tools through a single integration. It aims to reduce friction and give entrepreneurs more time to focus on their craft.

How PayPal cash flow lending works

PayPal’s approach to cash flow-based lending matches repayments with earnings. It is unlike traditional fixed-schedule lending. “Repayment is predicated on the receipt of those earnings,” says Gill. She describes the flexibility of the PayPal Working Capital product. This flexibility makes the loan more manageable for merchants with fluctuating revenue.

But, until recently, merchants couldn’t access more funds until fully repaid the loan. That’s changing. “We are changing our product to allow for the ability to redraw,” she notes. She signals towards an update that will help entrepreneurs recycle capital more efficiently.

Leveraging Open Banking for better lending models

Previously, PayPal could only lend based on what it processed. But open banking now enables them to assess a holistic view of merchant cash flow. “We now can have visibility into the entire merchant account, both on and off PayPal,” says Gill. This broader perspective supports more accurate underwriting. It offers larger loan sizes without expanding the credit risk.

PayPal is embedding finance into merchant workflows

PayPal isn’t just offering loans—they’re embedding them into the workflows merchants already use. Through the PayPal dashboard, users are notified of pre-approved loan amounts as they manage daily tasks. These are like refunds and chargebacks. “We are planning to add the amount that merchants have been pre-approved for, so they know going in,” Gill shares. PayPal is also collaborating with vertical SaaS providers, as well as with marketplaces, to bring financing directly into partner platforms.

Growing with merchants in the Open PayPal ecosystem

Through its open ecosystem, PayPal aims to grow alongside its customers. “We do things from point of sale to lending to online payments for e-commerce… we’ve tried to grow with our customers as they’ve grown,” says Gill. That includes helping businesses navigate newer challenges, like Generative AI and complex commerce models. “We do that through education, tools, and end-to-end services,” she adds.

The Big Ideas

  1. Small Businesses Face Tool Overload. “The preponderance of them use more than 15 tools to run their business.” This overload creates inefficiencies—PayPal’s integrated platform is intended to reduce that friction.
  2. Cash Flow Lending Matches Business Realities. “Repayment is predicated on the receipt of those earnings.” This model reflects how small businesses operate, especially in unpredictable markets.
  3. Access to Capital Expands with Open Banking. “We now have visibility into the entire merchant account… not only borrow against your PayPal receivables, but also your off-US receivables.” This broader access supports more accurate and inclusive lending.
  4. Embedded Finance Increases Accessibility. “Merchants who use PayPal come into their dashboard generally at least once a week… We let them know they have access to capital.” In-app lending notifications simplify the financing journey.
  5. Loyalty Grows with Product Adoption. “If you borrow once from us, you tend to borrow five or six times.” This repeated usage signals that the lending tools are resonating with merchants.

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The Future of Small Business Banking: Insights from Industry Leaders

On a late summer morning in New York City, industry leaders gathered at Mastercard’s Innovation Hub for Tearsheet’s flagship The Big Bank Theory Conference 2024. The event this year was dedicated to exploring the future of small business support in the financial sector. Attendees, ranging from fintech startups to established banking incumbents, anticipated insights from some of the most influential voices in the field.

Setting the Stage: The Global Impact of Small Businesses

Kicking the day off was Salah Goss, Senior Vice President for Social Impact at MasterCard’s Center for Inclusive Growth. Goss began by painting a vivid picture of the small business landscape worldwide.

Salah Goss, Senior Vice President for Social Impact, MasterCard

“Imagine a world without small businesses,” Goss challenged the audience. “It’s almost impossible, isn’t it? That’s because small businesses make up 90% of businesses and 50% of employment worldwide. In the US alone, they account for 50% of the GDP.”

Goss went on to introduce MasterCard’s “Strive” program, a global initiative designed to support small businesses through three key pillars:

  1. Access to credit
  2. Access to digital tools and digitization
  3. Access to networks and know-how

She shared an inspiring success story that brought these pillars to life. “Let me tell you about Brian,” Goss said. “She’s an urban farmer in Watts, a community in LA, where we support an organization called Think Watts. Through our digital payment tools and analytics, She could suddenly see which plants her local farmers’ market preferred – indoor houseplants or outdoor flowers. Brian’s sales skyrocketed by 70%. That’s the power of digitization for small businesses.”

Goss continued, “In Strive USA alone, we’ve already helped partners unlock about $44.2 billion in affordable credit to small businesses. But we’re not stopping there.”

Beyond the goods and services SMBs offer they often also function as community hubs. Critically, SMBs provide jobs and fuel for their local economic engines; just under half of private sector employees are employed by one of the 34,000,000-plus SMBs in the US.

While every business is unique, there are some common challenges— concerns around tracking, forecasting, and understanding cashflow, for example. Time is another: SMB owners and managers wear so many hats, from selling a product or service to often serving as a one-person HR department.

“Running a small business is hard and owners are looking for help. Frequently, they’re turning to the partners they already trust, like their banks, to help solve these pain points. As our co-founder and CPO, Tomer London, likes to say, ‘There’s never been a better time to build tools for SMBs.’ Banks have an incredible opportunity to do just that,” said Yi Liu, General Manager of Gusto Embedded.

The Art of Partnership: A Banker’s Perspective

Mark Valentino, President of Business Banking at Citizens Bank took the stage, dressed in what he jokingly referred to as his “banker’s uniform.”

Mark Valentino, President of Business Banking, Citizens Bank

“I was told to give a TED-style talk,” he quipped, “but I don’t own any turtlenecks, so you’ll have to settle for this suit.” The room broke out in laughter, creating a warm atmosphere for his insights on the importance of partnerships and integration in small business banking.

He outlined three key principles, emphasizing the importance of understanding small business needs. “We call it the guiding North Star,” he explained.

Truly understanding the needs of small businesses. Are you solving the right problems? “Because let me tell you, we’ve all been guilty of rolling out great ideas that solved the wrong problem.” Valentino emphasized that it is critical to identify customers’ pain points accurately, and not just roll out great ideas that don’t address their actual needs.

Integration and creating seamless, frictionless experiences for customers. He discussed the importance of integrating solutions within the Citizens ecosystem so customers don’t have to juggle multiple applications. “Everything we’re doing at Citizens is about integration. We want [our business customers] to live in there and be able to do everything, whether it’s their payroll, payments, or their invoicing needs. We want them to be able to interact with their customers and their vendors all in one sign on,” he said.

Fostering a culture of growth, not just for Citizens’ own profitability, but for helping small business customers grow and succeed. He gave examples of partnerships like Mastercard Digital Doors, which offers marketing and financial tools to small businesses, and Luminary, a gender inclusive, global professional education and networking platform created to address the systemic challenges impacting women and our allies across all industries and sectors.

The banker painted a vivid picture of the typical small business owner’s challenges. “Picture this,” he said, gesturing to the audience. “An electrical contractor in Boston, a minority-owned consulting firm in New Jersey, and a veteran-owned orthopedic treatment center in New Hampshire. What do they have in common? They’re all going up against larger competitors, struggling to hire and retain employees, and they’re all super stressed out. They’re short on time and long on problems.”

To aid SMBs get things done fast one way is to consolidate tools. “Time-strapped SMB owners increasingly seek integrated solutions to solve their business’s needs. That’s why there is traction among banks looking to offer additional value-added services to their SMB customers, whether payroll, point-of-sale solutions, or invoicing services,” said Liu.

The Digital Revolution in SMB Payments

As the event progressed, Chris Ward, head of enterprise payments at Truist, took the stage to discuss the evolving world of small business payments. Ward introduced what he called the “3S’s of the economy”: Simplicity, Speed, and Safety.

“Think about the last time you ordered something on Amazon,” Ward challenged the audience. “Did you need someone to come to your house and teach you how to do it? Of course not! That’s the level of simplicity we need to strive for in financial services.”

Chris Ward, Head of Enterprise Payments, Truist

Ward delved into the persistent use of checks in small business transactions. “You’d think after the pandemic, everyone would have abandoned checks,” he mused. “But here’s the kicker – check volume in B2B transactions is still growing!”

This revelation led to a fascinating discussion on fraud risks associated with checks. Ward shared an anecdote about his daughter, who also works in the payments industry. “She’s always joking with me about her smaller customers,” Ward chuckled. “I can’t believe these customers don’t use Positive Pay,’ she says. It’s a family affair in payments, folks!”

Cash is still king for SMBs

Scott Beyer, Head of Business Banking Digital Experience at US Bank, presented on the changing payment and cash flow needs of small and mid-sized businesses (SMBs). He highlighted how these needs are driving SMBs to adopt new technologies, and how financial institutions (FIs) can simplify the complex ecosystems SMBs operate in.

Scott Beyer, Head of Business Banking Digital Experience, US Bank

He discussed findings from a recent US Bank survey, which revealed that 87% of small businesses remain optimistic about their future, despite challenges such as inflation and talent shortages. Small business owners are eager to adopt technology that helps streamline operations, but they seek solutions that save time and allow them to focus on running their businesses rather than managing financial processes.

Beyer identified three critical areas for FIs to focus on:

Availability of Digital Products: Ensure banking products are easily accessible and digitally available, enhancing convenience for small business customers.
Integration of Services: Build seamless internal and external integrations to simplify business banking, payments, and other operations for clients.
Data Harmonization: Align and consolidate fragmented data to deliver personalized insights and streamline financial management for small businesses.

Beyer concluded by urging banks to prioritize investment in infrastructure and data integration to create a more connected banking, payments, and software ecosystem that better serves SMBs.

When conceptualizing what their software ecosystem is going to offer to their SMB clients, banks need to consider the biggest pain points for these customers. “Running payroll for 300k+ SMBs has taught us a few lessons about SMB cashflow. Many customers tell us payroll is their largest regular expense. And meeting payroll each week  — will they have the funds, will payments from customers clear in time, do they need to access a line of credit — can be a source of stress. However, banks also have visibility into the revenue side of an SMB business and are in a unique position to offer payment options and digital tools that help SMBs better understand, manage, and forecast their end-to-end cashflow,” said Liu.

Embracing the Future: AI and Beyond

The event included a look toward the future with a discussion on emerging technologies. Goss shared MasterCard’s latest innovation – an AI-driven chatbot for small businesses.

“But here’s what makes it special,” Goss explained. “It’s inclusive. When business owners from underrepresented communities ask a question, the response reflects their unique experiences and needs. It’s not just a chatbot; it’s a digital ally that truly understands them.”

After the day’s speakers and three closed-door working groups exploring SMB issues in depth, it was time for networking before calling it a day. This year’s The Big Bank Theory was a catalyst for change, intimating a new era of empowerment for small businesses in the digital age. As one attendee was overheard saying, “This isn’t the end of the conversation. It’s just the beginning.”